Luke wrote:

Rockstar answer. This is why this app is by far and away the best value of anything you can buy. Bryce and joe are so intentional about every answer. Just wanted to extend my thanks and highlight that here.

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I am in the same boat. I have a little more muscle and lower body fat but just starting these workouts the volume is about 1/4 of what I used to do with good success. It’s really hard for me to think this is enough volume. (Currently doing Joe’s program)

Thanks for the response. I think my old volume workouts (bro split). I would say maybe would be considered warm ups. But in an arm workout I would do 3 exercises for triceps and 3 for biceps . Say close grip, Skull crushers, push downs, all heavy and hard for the last 2 sets. For instance say on close grip bench go with 135×20, 185×12 225×10-12 and 275x 5-6. In my head I considered 135 and 185 warm up. But failure was reached on the last 2 sets. So is this just a matter of guys like me doing old routines that list 4×8-12 and saving gas on the fist 2 sets. So really 2 working sets is what I had been doing. But 3 heavier exercises vs doing something like the tricep cross body push downs and dips which I feel like I can’t get the mental focus on like I can with close grip or skull crushers seems like it’s not enough. I had gotten in good shape but had to take 50 days off because of a work schedule so I feel like I’m starting over and it’s hard to get away from old habits. Basically I almost feel like this program isn’t enough volume and it’s hard to not think it’s not good to follow someone who is fine tuning their physique vs building one from near scratch? Sorry for the long response. Hopefully someone else is in the same boat and can learn from my thoughts and the response. Thanks guys.