Empty stomach Training

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    Chris Meulbroek
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    Hey I was wondering, what’s your advise

    My schedule is:
    I sleep from 21:30-05:30
    I Train between 06:30-08:00
    Then i work from 09:00-18:00

    My meals are consistent with good Kcal and proteine ratios equally spread throughout each meal:
    -06:00
    -11:00
    -16:00
    -21:00
    (I’m currently in 5-10% deficit and lose about 0.25% Bodyweight a week. Around 0,2 kg is that)

    I love to train with a pre workout or some coffee in the morning to boost my performance

    But I notice that I’m not that hungry at 06:00 and more around 08:30

    Does it matter much when I would change my breakfast at 06:00 to 08:30 instead?

    I would train fasted with a pre workout

    Idk if it matters for my proteïne synthesis and the ability to build/retain muscle

    Because my pre bed meal at 21:00 also is a dairy form with slow digested proteome with about 45-50 grams. Would that proteine still be in my blood for muscle building in the morning?

    I would love to hear your take on this !

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    Joe
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    #149861
    Chris Meulbroek
    Participant

    Thank you! My personal experience is that I feel no difference in performance. Maybe it’s so early on fasted even higher because of there no food in the way with max efforts.

    But I m concerned about the proteine breakdown. Would a simple sugary carb drink do the trick ? Or what would you recooked intra workout?

    Because what I read about aminos in articles is that when you have sufficient enough in your diet it has no added benefits. I don’t know what your thoughts are on that?? And would the BCAA’s fast enough absorb to make a difference?

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    Roberto Celi
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    Once again I can’t post the comment so I screenshoted it.

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    #150492
    Chris Meulbroek
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    Once again I can’t post the comment so I screenshoted it.

    Thanks!

    I could do a Proteine shake at 06:00 30 minutes prior to the training. But i do like to keep it simple and eat whole meals. If some intra workout carbs do the trick and I eat a whole meal with 50 gram of proteine post workout. I”ll rather do that instead of a proteine shake before hand.
    But if there is a major potential/difference you mis because you don’t consume amino acids or protein shake before hand. I”ll just do that and have peace with it haha

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    Roberto Celi
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    I think the reason I can’t post is because my texts get too long. Sorry I get in a train of thought. But yea just have peace with it

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    #151440
    Chris Meulbroek
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    Is see your point. I do want to compete again in the future or at least get more swole then I am now. But life is also important and through the years I’ve learned more and more to look at the big picture that drives results and less on the mini micro stuff. But yet again if you leave much potention behind with a small adjustment it would be a shame not to use that of course. Im curieus how joe or Bryce think about it

    #151641
    Joe
    Keymaster

    Thank you! My personal experience is that I feel no difference in performance. Maybe it’s so early on fasted even higher because of there no food in the way with max efforts.
    But I m concerned about the proteine breakdown. Would a simple sugary carb drink do the trick ? Or what would you recooked intra workout?
    Because what I read about aminos in articles is that when you have sufficient enough in your diet it has no added benefits. I don’t know what your thoughts are on that?? And would the BCAA’s fast enough absorb to make a difference?

    #153912
    Chris Meulbroek
    Participant

    Thank you so much Joe for your expertise. I’ve bought EAA’s with a isotonic Aquarius (the gaterade in our land haha) at first I thought u meant BCAA’s but this is different. I do 15 grams EAA’s with 30 grams of carbs during my workout now.

    This morning the performance was good so thank you. I think this works pretty good and after my workout I enjoy some good old salmon 👌

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