Natural Testosterone

[Gorden Stevens]

Hey Joe, hope you’re good.

A few months ago I dieted and got lean (pic attached). This phase ran from May until November. Calories only got to 2200 so not super low. Obviously nothing crazy, but leaner than I have been before. I developed hypogonadal symptoms and went to my doctor and got some blood work done. Testosterone was super low. Less than 100ngdl. I have been offered TRT. Fast forward a few months and my testosterone has gone up significantly. Still definitely not good, but each test it has gone up the longer I have been out of the deficit.

My question is how common Is it for naturals to develop hypogonadism during dieting phases? Do you have experience in running bloodwork whilst people have been dieting for a few months? I’m hesitant to take up the TRT offer if it’s common for men’s testosterone to drop whilst dieting. But how long does it normally take to feel normal again?

Thanks a lot.

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Gorden Stevens wrote:

Hey Joe, hope you’re good.

A few months ago I dieted and got lean (pic attached). This phase ran from May until November. Calories only got to 2200 so not super low. Obviously nothing crazy, but leaner than I have been before. I developed hypogonadal symptoms and went to my doctor and got some blood work done. Testosterone was super low. Less than 100ngdl. I have been offered TRT. Fast forward a few months and my testosterone has gone up significantly. Still definitely not good, but each test it has gone up the longer I have been out of the deficit.

My question is how common Is it for naturals to develop hypogonadism during dieting phases? Do you have experience in running bloodwork whilst people have been dieting for a few months? I’m hesitant to take up the TRT offer if it’s common for men’s testosterone to drop whilst dieting. But how long does it normally take to feel normal again?

Thanks a lot.

Not 100% my area of expertise, mainly because there can be some many contributing variables. But yes, it’s fairly common. The best thing you can do, is what you’re doing. Keep getting bloodwork every few months, keep communicating with your doc about all your options. If at some point levels never come back, I think TRT can be a fine option BUT you really need a good doc that keeps on top of you and your bloodwork all the time

[Gorden Stevens]

Joe wrote:

[quote quote=18888]Hey Joe, hope you’re good.

A few months ago I dieted and got lean (pic attached). This phase ran from May until November. Calories only got to 2200 so not super low. Obviously nothing crazy, but leaner than I have been before. I developed hypogonadal symptoms and went to my doctor and got some blood work done. Testosterone was super low. Less than 100ngdl. I have been offered TRT. Fast forward a few months and my testosterone has gone up significantly. Still definitely not good, but each test it has gone up the longer I have been out of the deficit.

My question is how common Is it for naturals to develop hypogonadism during dieting phases? Do you have experience in running bloodwork whilst people have been dieting for a few months? I’m hesitant to take up the TRT offer if it’s common for men’s testosterone to drop whilst dieting. But how long does it normally take to feel normal again?

Thanks a lot.

Not 100% my area of expertise, mainly because there can be some many contributing variables. But yes, it’s fairly common. The best thing you can do, is what you’re doing. Keep getting bloodwork every few months, keep communicating with your doc about all your options. If at some point levels never come back, I think TRT can be a fine option BUT you really need a good doc that keeps on top of you and your bloodwork all the [/quote]

Thanks Joe, luckily I’ve found a doctor that knows what he’s doing after reading horror stories online with treatment protocols. If I can avoid TRT, is there any way, besides the obvious things of tapering calories down slowly, eating nutrient dense food, lowering volume and ensuring sleep is good that can be done to avoid this when in a deficit? Obviously I’ll want to be back in a deficit at some point but the symptoms I have/ was getting are unbearable. Or is it just a case that of you’re genetically liable to it dropping when dieting there’s nothing that can be done? Thanks

[Joe]

Gorden Stevens wrote:

[quote quote=19022][quote quote=18888]Hey Joe, hope you’re good.

A few months ago I dieted and got lean (pic attached). This phase ran from May until November. Calories only got to 2200 so not super low. Obviously nothing crazy, but leaner than I have been before. I developed hypogonadal symptoms and went to my doctor and got some blood work done. Testosterone was super low. Less than 100ngdl. I have been offered TRT. Fast forward a few months and my testosterone has gone up significantly. Still definitely not good, but each test it has gone up the longer I have been out of the deficit.

My question is how common Is it for naturals to develop hypogonadism during dieting phases? Do you have experience in running bloodwork whilst people have been dieting for a few months? I’m hesitant to take up the TRT offer if it’s common for men’s testosterone to drop whilst dieting. But how long does it normally take to feel normal again?

Thanks a lot.

Not 100% my area of expertise, mainly because there can be some many contributing variables. But yes, it’s fairly common. The best thing you can do, is what you’re doing. Keep getting bloodwork every few months, keep communicating with your doc about all your options. If at some point levels never come back, I think TRT can be a fine option BUT you really need a good doc that keeps on top of you and your bloodwork all the [/quote]

Thanks Joe, luckily I’ve found a doctor that knows what he’s doing after reading horror stories online with treatment protocols. If I can avoid TRT, is there any way, besides the obvious things of tapering calories down slowly, eating nutrient dense food, lowering volume and ensuring sleep is good that can be done to avoid this when in a deficit? Obviously I’ll want to be back in a deficit at some point but the symptoms I have/ was getting are unbearable. Or is it just a case that of you’re genetically liable to it dropping when dieting there’s nothing that can be done? Thanks[/quote]
There is nothing about a moderate calorie deficit in and of itself that should make your test levels plummet (especially if you’re doing all the above mentioned things). The only other things to check are some of the important micronutrients that relate to androgen levels. Specifically D3, magnesium, and zinc. (Need to check red blood cell levels of zinc and mag). There are more, but those are a big culprit, and if your very deficient in those, it can exasperate things in a deficit. But getting levels up is a bit of a long term fix. So check those with your doc, aside from that, do everything you
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