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  • #17828
    Povilasx3
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    Hello. It’s been like 4years since i cannot train hard in the gym and tollerate physical activities because my body is so stressed out ( overtraining i think). I did many lab tests doctors said i am totally healthy, listen to many doctors opinion’s and everyone said i am ok except endobiogenetics. They told me that my hormones – adrenals, cortisol, adrenaline is out of balance and i have insulin resistence and big magnesium defiency and they said i cannot tolerate physical avitivity that much. After 6months of they natural treatment i was feeling atlast pretty good my energy back felt much more energised in the morning( not later in the day) but still can’t train and tolerate any physical.activity. i was trying to rest very long  and i felt it was worse for me. Until i found a week ago your website i tryed many suppllements – magnesium, ZMA, different kinds of multi Vit., vit D, vit C tryed to be in good surplus with more protein but still cannot RECOVER and sleep well. I am trying now to use your supplement protocol bought BCAA 8:1:1 (witg Taurine 2g, Citruline 2g, Glutamine 3.5g also there), EAA, Creatine ( with taurine, glycine 3.5g and etc in it), fish oils 10 per day total, theanine, intra workout supplements and etc. What do you suggest how to recocer faster? Sometimes walking in fresh air would be too.much for.me if it’s like 40minutes. My face is really bloated  a day after training and stays bloated , my libido is very weak i don’t have so much problems now to fall asleep but i wake up feeling not rested everyday. . So.should i train with less volume/ intensity or rest completly? What supplement.protocol you suggest and overall recovery process? Any ideas? Please help ! i cannot do anything i love… 🙁

    #17888
    BryceBahm
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    If there is a normal issue going on consistently this needs to be something you seek frequent counsel with your docs. Get labs often even when training to trends and get good advice.

    #17889
    Anonymous
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    I hate to say this and I sincerely feel bad about your situation but to me that doesn’t sound even the least bit of healthy.

    I am not a doctor but the symptoms you listed reminds me of the adrenal fatigue syndrome. This would kinda fit in this scenario perfectly because, if my memory serves me right it’s not recognized as a medical condition in the healthcare community. But what you just told us it’s pretty obvious that something is not right.

    Have you gotten your cortisol levels tested?

    #18020
    Joe
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    Hello. It’s been like 4years since i cannot train hard in the gym and tollerate physical activities because my body is so stressed out ( overtraining i think). I did many lab tests doctors said i am totally healthy, listen to many doctors opinion’s and everyone said i am ok except endobiogenetics. They told me that my hormones – adrenals, cortisol, adrenaline is out of balance and i have insulin resistence and big magnesium defiency and they said i cannot tolerate physical avitivity that much. After 6months of they natural treatment i was feeling atlast pretty good my energy back felt much more energised in the morning( not later in the day) but still can’t train and tolerate any physical.activity. i was trying to rest very long  and i felt it was worse for me. Until i found a week ago your website i tryed many suppllements – magnesium, ZMA, different kinds of multi Vit., vit D, vit C tryed to be in good surplus with more protein but still cannot RECOVER and sleep well. I am trying now to use your supplement protocol bought BCAA 8:1:1 (witg Taurine 2g, Citruline 2g, Glutamine 3.5g also there), EAA, Creatine ( with taurine, glycine 3.5g and etc in it), fish oils 10 per day total, theanine, intra workout supplements and etc. What do you suggest how to recocer faster? Somes walking in fresh air would be too.much for.me if it’s like 40minutes. My face is really bloated  a day after training and stays bloated , my libido is very weak i don’t have so much problems now to fall asleep but i wake up feeling not rested everyday. . So.should i train with less volume/ intensity or rest completly? What supplement.protocol you suggest and overall recovery process? Any ideas? Please help ! i cannot do anything i love… 🙁

    Sorry my friend. What Bryce said. Too much going on to give you any specifics. Maybe try to find a doctor with a functional medicine background as well. That’s probably your best bet. (I wouldn’t even add all the supps you mentioned, as that’s just kind of like taking shots in the dark)

    #18035
    Povilasx3
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    Yes endobiogenetic’s are functional medicine doctors. Before them i was so stressed out my body that i could’nt  fall asleep 2 days per week at all and then i found ketogenic diet which helped me alot. My energy was higher, i was falling asleelp in like 20mins. maximum and was less stressed. How do you think what diet protocol should i follow to recover faster? Should i stick to keto diet for stable blood sugar levels or just go lower carb on normal diet like you suggest on rest days to have last 2 meals with carbs?

    #18169
    Joe
    Keymaster

    Yes endobiogenetic’s are functional medicine doctors. Before them i was so stressed out my body that i could’nt  fall asleep 2 days per week at all and then i found ketogenic diet which helped me alot. My energy was higher, i was falling asleelp in like 20mins. maximum and was less stressed. How do you think what diet protocol should i follow to recover faster? Should i stick to keto diet for stable blood sugar levels or just go lower carb on normal diet like you suggest on rest days to have last 2 meals with carbs?

    Keto might not be adequate protein to recover. And yes, I think some carbs could help. So if I were you, I would try higher protein, high(ish) fat and maybe just carbs intra workout and post workout. That could be a fine place to start. And what ever diet you do, get approved by your Doc and keep working with them to figure out any more underlying problems

    #18259
    Povilasx3
    Participant

    So that’s basically targeted keto diet? If i go with moderate intensity workouts and use just intra workout carbs.

    #18313
    BryceBahm
    Participant

    So that’s basically targeted keto diet? If i go with moderate intensity workouts and use just intra workout carbs.

    What Joe suggested is not a keto diet. It’s just a standard diet with carbs isolated around training for easy moderation.

    You are just going to have to be smart and adjust your training based off a diet that is working well. It’s going to be trial and error

    #18532
    Povilasx3
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    Yes endobiogenetic’s are functional medicine doctors. Before them i was so stressed out my body that i could’nt fall asleep 2 days per week at all and then i found ketogenic diet which helped me alot. My energy was higher, i was falling asleelp in like 20mins. maximum and was less stressed. How do you think what diet protocol should i follow to recover faster? Should i stick to keto diet for stable blood sugar levels or just go lower carb on normal diet like you suggest on rest days to have last 2 meals with carbs?

    Keto might not be adequate protein to recover. And yes, I think some carbs could help. So if I were you, I would try higher protein, high(ish) fat and maybe just carbs intra workout and post workout. That could be a fine place to start. And what ever diet you do, get approved by your Doc and keep working with them to figure out any more underlying problems

     

     

    I am little confused because i don’t know if training for me is good idea or not. My functional medicine doc’s said that keto is good for me. So basically if you saying higher protein and high’ish fat  and if i not train (that means i don’t need carbs, right?) so i still be in ketosis at some point if i don’t train and wait until i am recovered and ready to train again? But ketosis suggest not to eat frequently (2-3times per day max) so should i spare my protein intake in 3 meals or go for 6 meals higher protein high fat and no carbs? Is facial bloating, no libido, higher stress levels (despite that i feel calm in my mind) is a sign that i am lack of protein?

     

    Big appreation for you guys for helping!

    #18569
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yes endobiogenetic’s are functional medicine doctors. Before them i was so stressed out my body that i could’nt fall asleep 2 days per week at all and then i found ketogenic diet which helped me alot. My energy was higher, i was falling asleelp in like 20mins. maximum and was less stressed. How do you think what diet protocol should i follow to recover faster? Should i stick to keto diet for stable blood sugar levels or just go lower carb on normal diet like you suggest on rest days to have last 2 meals with carbs?

    Oh that’s nice, looks like the website decided to discard my long winded answer completely. I didn’t realize it was that bad but who am I to tell. Let’s try again.

    Man to be honest with you, considering how severe your situation is and the fact that even your doctors don’t seem to know what’s going on, I don’t think I am right person to help you out.

    But regardless of that, here are my thoughts on the subject. If keto seems to work better for you then by all means stick with it. Keto has nothing to do with meal frequency, you can eat just as often as you like, you just avoid eating carbohydrates.

    As far as training goes, like I said previously, if your doctors can’t even answer to that, then how are we supposed to? I don’t think there is really no other better way to really know other than to find out for yourself. Maybe start off with doing only 1 training session per week. Something light, nothing strenuous, get some blood flowing and see how your body feels the next day. If you are not feeling complete trashed try to do a little bit more of what you did previously and slowly try to work on conditioning your body to tolerate more workload (ie. stress).

    #18774
    Povilasx3
    Participant

    I just did lab tests- Testestorene and SHBG, Albumin and other hormones. Testerone ( normal range from 8 to 29 mine was 37 and SHBG normal range 18-54 mine was 66!). I used Test booster (Testerone RESTORE) for like 3 weeks but one week before test i stopped using it. So maybe high SHBG means that i don’t have free test that would explain my symptoms lack of libido, sex drive, energy, sleep, etc… I readed about it that high SHBG is related to overtraining also as one of the reasons and  CNS. So that would make sense why i cannot tolerate much physical activity. Tomorrow i go ahead to talk endocrinologist to figure out how to lower it and see what happens. What do you think guys? Could it be main reason for my symptoms? SHBG tests was never taken before (after like 4 different endocrinologists) only testesterone. Any suggestions how to lower it ? use BORON supplements?

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