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Rei Koka
ParticipantTbh its not the first time I have seen something like this coach kassem hanson has done in the past smth similar with a landmine attachment on the prime cable station and seriously to see you coming up with it on your own its definitely something remarkable and aspires me to do better myself. I understood everything you had done and its fucking cool and amazing to see and I want to congratulate you for that. I don’t have a home gym so in a commercial gym i dont think this is possible to make 😂 but its definitely something very cool to see.
Rei Koka
ParticipantDefinitely does help. Thank you very much 🙏🏻
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ParticipantHey Joe. Thanks for the reply. The video of Tom was I think around 2019 or 2020, and yeah I get all the things about trends and stuff its just like you know the thing when you’re a nerd you want to learn everything even though thats not possible. Like when I saw the video of Tom and he separated biarticular muscles and monoarticular muscles that was smth new to me, as you mentioned you hadn’t really separated them, and he mentiones that in mono articular muscles, like delts for example the change in internal moment arm is so small that is almost non existent and basically the entire strength profile is literally determined from length-tension relationship. But because these muscles never truly get fully lengthened (stretched) they dont have that drop off in force in the maximum length they achieve so its more like they stop on the mid rang. I aaked this because this was the graph you had on resistance profile for delt raises.
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ParticipantThere is muance to this as all the muscles work slightly differently so that graph you are showing isnt right for all muscles at all. In terms of side deltoid for example, you cant really stretch it much etc. And the resistance curves Joe uses is general strength profile + he has separate videos on dofferent muscle which are all little bit different if you havent watched it. So the graph you are showing is not right for all muscles so it doesnt really show the big picture, Joe on the other hand has videos of different muscle resistance curves that are more spesific and better imo. This one goes to Joe for sure.
Dude I am not trying to compare here so its not about well Joe you won the round, and tbh I would be careful before calling any RTS stuff as wrong, and if you havent seen the video that I mentioned above you cant possibly make the predicition that its wrong. Just like Joe’s graphs the ones there are a general representation for the representative muscles. The two graphs are different because its the difference between two joint muscles ( muscles that cross two joints e.g. biceps crosses over the shoulder joint and the elbow joint) and one joint muscles ( e.g. delts which only cross over the shoulder joint ). And I have seen Joe’s videos on the hypertrophy university and his graph about the delts looks different compared to the 2nd picture attached on my text above in terms of the shape of the curve. Thats why I asked this question to kinda have some clarification around it. Because maybe even Tom knew the wrong thing back then and now he has improved his stuff. The nice thing about rts is that it is always evolving and getting better.
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ParticipantThat makes sense, thank you! 👌🏻🙏🏻
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ParticipantHey coach. Thanks for the answer. I have followed Joe for years so in a way I kind off know all the principles like alignment bracing profiles, but he has had those principles for some years now, so my point wasn’t that he has had a drastic change on his approach but rather how have these principles evolved in his mind to design even better programs, like where he mentioned that his recent programs are a tad bit better compared to his old ones as they are with more evolved principles like, what is an example of that evolution where he thinks he has become better. Idk if I made it clear 🙁
Rei Koka
ParticipantI didn’t even need to do more than a session to realize the performance at the end sucked and that it was boring as hell to do all the exercises in the end as I was just tired and unfocused. What you said makes lots of sense and I will make these adjustments. Thank you !!
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ParticipantIf I am not mistaken thats a watson hack squat with hydraulic press to change the angle. The more vertical you get the hack the more you will have the grabity pulling the weight down. Like if a hack squat was completely horizontal you would have the plates moving because the gravity if pulling down while the direction of the machine would be horizontal.
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ParticipantI think the second machine the leg press that has a pivot not the linear one, would be a good option for you mate, its similar to the cybex one Joe has I wish that had an adjustable seat instead of having that seat fixed. As far as replacing the hack the first machine if the seat can be adjusted meaning to become flat some machines are like that then that would make it a hack squat thr only problem would be the angle well not technically a problem but because of the angle you just have to put a bigger weight. Hope I could help
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ParticipantYou mentioned a lot about lying leg curl but I wasn’t comparing that at all although I get the point why you used that analogy. But in the case of face away cable curls I have seen you do it seated. Or maybe you can even stay in your feet and support your back in the bench if you put the bench at smth like 80° or more and from there you have essentially the same profile but with the biceps being fully lengthened compared to a preacher where you have just a tinny bit of shoulder flexion. Or maybe having the prime bench with the supporting triceps attachments so you can perform the movement. So if you can see the picture ( better than Joe btw 😂😂 just kidding ) but I tried drawing the exercise. Essentially human is putting his back on the bench for support while doing the reverse cable curl. When you put the cable at the lowest position it essentially has the same profile as a preacher curl meaning some load in the fully lengthened position which preacher curl doesnt achieve as you are in a shoulder flexed position although not much and the biggest challenge is in the midrange and then it drops off quite dramatically at the top.
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ParticipantBetween the atlantis pivot press and cybex squat press which are attached in photos which would you choose? This is cybex new version not the one you have in your gym but at least looks the same idk if the newer version is worse or not. Saw another coach say that he prefers the atlantis one but obv I love to take 2nd opinions and obv price will be smth that matters too. In the atlantis one the foot plate just like cybex actually moves a bit in that bottom position to allow for more dorsiflexion. As for the watson I agree with what you said and I wont buy their hack squat, I do like their leg press for the size and the option to move on leg at a time, I did saw the elite fts version you have mentioned before thats like the watson leg press but it was like twice more expensive. And the option of having shoulder pads I think it should probably feel very nice when it comes to bracing. As for the 10 multistation watson was the best I could find for the ability to have 2 pulldowns and 2 rows while also having on the outside of the station movable cable options, like it has those holes so yoh slide it to put it wherever you want rather than just having top and bottom fixed. Which in albania is rare because people are stupid and dont know ehat to choose.
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ParticipantWas nice to hear your answers for this. Thank youu for the reply
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ParticipantHad asked this question before joining the live and asking there too lol, sorry for being so impatient. Because its a big project that will go more in depth thats why I am impatient, I loved the first version of it, its the primary reason I joined. Hopefully since I am and old member I will have access to it but if not I still will pay for that. Thank you very much
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ParticipantThanks for both of your replies, and I am sorry if the question wasn’t appropriate. I just think that even if people have disagreements specially when they feel like personal I think they should be kept out of public, and when I saw the guy comment on bpak calling him a celebrity bodybuilder and then commenting on other stuff about Joe and this has happened for years, it just seemed very ugly and completely unprofessional, and just wanted to understand how someone can stay this professional and not caring about that stuff as much as I would think. I aspire to be a coach one day and if I would be attacked I wanted to see an example and the reason why I should be and stay professional. I really appreciate both the answers and I will never ever bring this topic again in here. God bless you both and thanks for all the valuable content you provide everyday 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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